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		<title>Pushed Too Far&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://therealgunguys.com/blog/2009/08/22/pushed-too-far/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Yuri Orlov</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[What happens when an endless train of abuses and infringements are perpetrated by those who fancy themselves as our betters? Endless laws and regulations designed to eat out our sustenance, elected dictators and dishonest public servants make life unbearable and unlivable. They keep pushing and pushing and act surprised when someone puts their foot down [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happens when an endless train of abuses and infringements are perpetrated by those who fancy themselves as our betters? Endless laws and regulations designed to eat out our sustenance, elected dictators and dishonest public servants make life unbearable and unlivable. They keep pushing and pushing and act surprised when someone puts their foot down and says &#8220;No more!&#8221; and fights back. They never learn. It would appear that they have forgotten the lessons of the Revolution. Much to their detriment. Perhaps they are aware of this, and yet don&#8217;t care? Who knows.</p>
<p>Here are two tales of people who finally had enough. I&#8217;m not advocating anyone emulate their actions, but the history is very edifying.</p>
<p>First up is a man called Carl Drega. Vin Suprynowicz has a <a href="http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle1998/libe39-19980626-09.html" target="_blank">good run down</a> of this case. I urge everyone to go over and read the whole thing.</p>
<p>The back story:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>In 1981, 80 feet of the riverbank along Drega&#8217;s property collapsed  during a rainstorm.  Drega decided to dump and pack enough dirt to  repair the erosion damage, restoring his lot along the Connecticut  River to its original size. </em></p>
<p><em>A state conservation officer, Sergeant Eric Stohl, claimed to have  spotted the project from the river while passing the Drega property on  a fish-stocking operation.  (The river&#8217;s natural ecology harbored huge  runs of shad and Atlantic salmon, as well as native pike, pickerel,  and brook trout. So most New England states &#8212; these devoted acolytes  of environmental purity &#8212; now routinely stock bass, and brown and  rainbow trout, none of which is native and few of which survive long  enough to reproduce.) </em></p>
<p><em>The state hauled Drega into court, attempting to block his tiny  &#8220;project.&#8221; </em></p>
<p><em>This was piled atop earlier actions by the town of Columbia, some  dating back more than 20 years, and starting when the town hauled  Drega into court and threatened him with liens, judgments and  (ultimately) property seizure over a &#8220;zoning violation&#8221; which was  comprised of his failure to finish a house covered with tarpaper  within a time-frame which the town considered reasonable, former  selectman Kenneth Parkhurst told the </em><em>Boston Globe.</em></p>
<p><em>Drega tried for years to fight the authorities on their own terms,  in court.  Needless to say, as a quasi-literate product of the  government schools, and no lawyer, his filings became a laughing stock  both in the courts and in the newspapers to which he sent copies,  begging for help.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>The last straw:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>But they didn&#8217;t come for Carl Drega at home.  On Tuesday Aug. 19,  at about 2:30 on a warm summer afternoon, New Hampshire State Troopers  Leslie Lord, 45 (a former police chief of nearby Pittsburg) and Scott  Phillips, 32, arrested Drega in the parking lot of LaPerle&#8217;s IGA  supermarket in neighboring Colebrook, N.H. </em></p>
<p><em>(&#8220;Arrest&#8221; comes from the French word for &#8220;stop.&#8221;  Whenever agents  of the state brace a citizen, stop him, and demand to see his papers,  he has been &#8220;arrested,&#8221; no matter whether he has been &#8220;read his  rights,&#8221; no matter what niceties the court may apply to the various  steps of the process.) </em></p>
<p><em>Why was Carl Drega arrested that day?  New Hampshire Attorney  General Phillip McLaughlin pulls out his best weasel words, reporting  the troopers had stopped Drega&#8217;s pickup because of a &#8220;perception of  defects.&#8221;  Earlier wire accounts reported they were preparing to  ticket him for having &#8220;rust holes in the bed of his pickup truck.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>The end result:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>But Carl Drega had had enough.  He walked back to Trooper Lord&#8217;s  cruiser and shot the uniformed government agent seven times.  Then he  shot Trooper Philips, as the brave officer attempted to run away.   Both died. </em></p>
<p><em>Drega then commandeered Lord&#8217;s cruiser and drove to the office of  former selectman &#8212; now lawyer and part-time Judge &#8212; Vickie Bunnell.   Bunnell reportedly carried a handgun in her purse out of fear of  Drega.  But if so, she evidently had no well-thought-out plan to use  it.  Bunnell ran out the back door.  Drega calmly walked to the rear  of the building and shot her in the back from a range of about 30  feet.  Bunnell died. </em></p>
<p><em>Dennis Joos, 50, editor of the local </em><em>Colebrook News and  Sentinel,</em> worked in the office next door.  Unarmed, he ran out and  tackled Drega.  Drega walked about 15 feet with Joos still clutching  him around the legs, advising the editor to &#8220;Mind your own (expletive)  business,&#8221; according to reporter Claire Knapper of the local weekly.  Joos did not let go.  Drega shot Joos in the spine.  He died. </p>
<p><em>Drega then drove across the state line to Bloomfield, Vt., where  he fired at New Hampshire Fish and Game Warden Wayne Saunders, sending  his car off the road.  Saunders was struck on the badge and in the  arm, but his injuries were not considered life-threatening. </em></p>
<p><em>Police from various agencies soon spotted the abandoned police  cruiser Drega had been driving &#8230; still in Vermont.  As they  approached the vehicle, they began taking fire from a nearby hilltop  where Drega had positioned himself, apparently still armed with the  AR-15 and about 150 rounds of ammunition.  Although he managed to  wound two more New Hampshire state troopers and a U.S. Border Patrol  agent before he himself was killed by police gunfire, none of those  injuries were life-threatening, either.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>The next case comes from the state of Colorado, and concerns a man called <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Heemeyer" target="_blank">Marvin Heemeyer</a>.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the back story:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>In 1992, Heemeyer bought 2 acres (8,100 m2) of land from the Resolution Trust Corporation, the federal agency organized to handle the assets of failed savings and loan institutions. He bought the land for $42,000 subsequently agreeing to sell it to the Docheff family, which wanted the property for a concrete batch plant. The agreed price was $250,000 but according to Susan Docheff, Heemeyer changed his mind and increased the price to $375,000 and later demanded a deal worth approximately $1 million. This negotiation happened well before the rezoning proposal was heard by the town council.</p>
<p>In 2001, the zoning commission and the town&#8217;s trustees approved the construction of a cement manufacturing plant. Heemeyer appealed the decisions unsuccessfully. For many years, Heemeyer had used the adjacent property as a way to get to his muffler shop. The plan for the cement plant blocked that access. In addition to the frustration engendered by this dispute over access, Heemeyer was fined $2,500 by the Granby government for various violations, including &#8220;junk cars on the property and not being hooked up to the sewer line&#8221;. Heemeyer sought to cross 8 feet (2.4 m) of the concrete plant&#8217;s property to hook up with the sewer line.</p>
<p>As a last measure, Heemeyer petitioned the city with his neighbors and friends, but to no avail. He could not function without the sewer line and the cooperation of the town.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>What happened:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>On June 4, 2004, Heemeyer drove his armored bulldozer through the wall of his former business, the concrete plant, the Town Hall, the office of the local newspaper that editorialized against him, the home of a former judge&#8217;s widow, and a hardware store owned by another man Heemeyer named in a lawsuit, as well as others. Owners of all the buildings that were damaged had some connection to Heemeyer&#8217;s disputes.</p>
<p>Heemeyer&#8217;s rampage resulted in 13 buildings destroyed, resulting in total damages estimated at more than $7 million. The bulldozer also knocked out natural gas service to City Hall and the cement plant, and damaged a truck and part of a utility service center. Despite the great damage to property, no one besides Heemeyer was killed.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>This is just a taste, and incomplete at that, of the events surrounding these cases. I encourage my readers to do research of their own about these two stories, and more. These are not isolated cases.</p>
<p>Our country was formed after a long train of abuses, laid out in the Declaration of Independence, made life unlivable.  No one should be surprised that some people will fight back when pushed too far, but they always are.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s helicopter video of the second event. More such videos are available on Youtube, but this one is one of the best. It includes a call from a friend of  his and helps explain his motivations.</p>
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		<title>We Did It To Ourselves</title>
		<link>http://therealgunguys.com/blog/2009/08/12/we-did-it-to-ourselves/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 05:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Yuri Orlov</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A great 2nd Amendment song from Joe Bethancourt. This one is featured on Leslie Fish&#8217;s new CD &#8220;Lock And Load&#8221; &#8220;How a politician stands on the Second Amendment tells you how he or she views you as an individual &#8230;. as a trustworthy and productive citizen, or as part of an unruly crowd that needs [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great 2nd Amendment song from Joe Bethancourt. This one is featured on Leslie Fish&#8217;s new CD &#8220;Lock And Load&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;How a politician stands on the Second Amendment tells you how he or she views you as an individual &#8230;. as a trustworthy and productive citizen, or as part of an unruly crowd that needs to be lorded over, controlled, supervised, and taken care of.&#8221;<br />
- Dr. Suzanna Gratia Hupp</p></blockquote>
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		<title>They Were Having A Sale&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://therealgunguys.com/blog/2009/08/04/they-were-having-a-sale/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Yuri Orlov</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8230;at the gun store. I love this song. They Were Having a Sale at the Gun Store (The Jukes Boys) Lyrics by: Leslie Fish They were having a sale at the gun store; the Jukes boys decided to go With the moonshine gone bad, and the poaching gone thin Their business was doing quite slow [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;at the gun store.</p>
<p>I love this song.</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: center;">
<h2 style="text-align: center;">They Were Having a Sale at the Gun Store</h2>
<p><strong> (The Jukes Boys)<br />
Lyrics by: Leslie Fish</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em> They were having a sale at the gun store; the Jukes boys decided to go<br />
With the moonshine gone bad, and the poaching gone thin<br />
Their business was doing quite slow<br />
So they bought them a lot of hand-cannons, intent upon robb&#8217;ry and more<br />
But they never once thought to consider<br />
That they weren&#8217;t alone in the store.</em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em>Next in line was a little old lady, and next was a handsome young dame<br />
After her, came a man in a wheelchair<br />
Then a lad with an underweight frame<br />
They watched while the Jukes boys were buying, and considered what such boys would do<br />
Then they looked at each other, they said not a word<br />
But bought themselves hand-cannons too.</em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em>Well, that night Billy Jukes went out hunting; he spotted a girl who looked great<br />
But when he pulled her into an alley<br />
She pulled out a big 38.<br />
He thought this was feminine bluffing; &#8220;Naw, girl, you can&#8217;t shoot me,&#8221; he said<br />
Well, the very next second she proved he was wrong<br />
And Billy Jukes quite lost his head.</em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em>Well, Joey Jukes went for the money, so he went to a big liquor store<br />
And he hauled out his two-barrelled shotgun<br />
The moment he walked through the door<br />
He aimed at all present, and bellowed &#8220;Give me all ya got, or yer dead!&#8221;<br />
So the counterboy lifted his 44 mag<br />
And did just what Joey Jukes said.</em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em>Now, Beauregarde Jukes chose his pickin&#8217;s with more care and planning by far<br />
He jumped on a little old lady<br />
Who was just getting into her car<br />
But she promptly reached into her handbag and used the best choice she could make<br />
For a 25 auto has such light recoil<br />
As even a frail hand can take.</em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em>Now Roy Jukes was good at house burgling and still thought he&#8217;d escape without harm<br />
When the owner rolled in with a shotgun<br />
Braced on his wheelchair&#8217;s arm<br />
&#8220;Well, they&#8217;ll bust you for shooting&#8211;&#8221; Roy started, but the man&#8217;s shotgun cut off the lot<br />
And he said, as he muscled Roy&#8217;s corpse out the door<br />
&#8220;There are no ballistics on shot.&#8221;</em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em>So that was the end of the Jukes boys; the cops had to clean up the mess<br />
So they slandered gun-owning civilians<br />
All over the liberal press<br />
But the victors who might have been victims go silent, although this is true:<br />
So long as there&#8217;s one weapon left in the world,<br />
You better have you a gun too.</em></p>
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		<title>Leslie Fish &#8211; Lock &amp; Load</title>
		<link>http://therealgunguys.com/blog/2009/07/17/leslie-fish-lock-load/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 05:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Yuri Orlov</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been listening to this CD now for the last few days and I&#8217;m glad I got it. I highly recommend it to everyone as well. Keep in mind it is Folk/Filk music, so if that&#8217;s not your thing&#8230; As might be guessed by the title of the CD, this album is very pro 2nd [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been listening to <a href="http://lesliefish.com/cds.htm" target="_blank">this CD</a> now for the last few days and I&#8217;m glad I got it. I highly recommend it to everyone as well. Keep in mind it is Folk/Filk music, so if that&#8217;s not your thing&#8230;</p>
<p>As might be guessed by the title of the CD, this album is very pro 2nd Amendment.</p>
<p>If you get it, pay close attention to the lyrics as there is a definite message there.</p>
<p>As for music, I&#8217;d have to say &#8220;Poor Man&#8217;s Weapon&#8221; is the most listenable and accessible, while &#8220;Flight 93&#8243; makes me very sad every time I listen to it.</p>
<p>Last but not least, <a href="http://www.olegvolk.net/" target="_blank">Oleg Volk</a> did the photography and layout for the cover art, which is exceptional.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://therealgunguys.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/lalcover.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-623 aligncenter" title="lalcover" src="http://therealgunguys.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/lalcover.jpg" alt="lalcover" width="397" height="400" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Track Listing</strong></p>
<p><span style="font-family: ARIAL;"> </span></p>
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<li> <span style="color: #888888;">Lock and Load  4:14</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #888888;"> They Were Having A Sale At the Gun Store (Fish, arr. Blake Hodgetts) 4:29</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #888888;"> Vigilante  3:56</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #888888;"> The Sheep Look Back  2:02</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #888888;"> Poor Man&#8217;s Weapon  4:28</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #888888;"> PGP  2:12</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #888888;"> No High Ground  4:42</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #888888;"> The Weapon Shops Of Isher 2:13</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #888888;"> The Old Issue (Kipling/Fish &amp; M.Creasey, arr. Fish)  5:48</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #888888;"> Free Fire Zone (Garry Siler)  3:22</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #888888;"> Devil-Devil  3:38</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #888888;"> We Did It To Ourselves   (Bethancourt)  4:51</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #888888;"> Gamer  3:47</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #888888;"> Eyewitness (Keller/Fish)  2:02</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #888888;"> Me and My 30-06 (Bethancourt)  3:22</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #888888;"> Flight 93  6:30 ( <a href="http://lesliefish.com/mp3s/flight93.mp3">MP3</a> FULL SONG)</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #888888;"> Once to Every Man and Nation (James Russell Lowell, 1845/Thomas Williams ["Ebenezer"], 1890)  3:30</span></li>
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